Macaca
10-01 03:27 PM
Worldwide Limits
(a) FS Preference Limitation:
The overall ceiling for relatives is 480,000, from which the previous year's total of immediate relatives and other family classes which are exempt from the numerical ceiling are deducted to determine the level of family-based preference immigration. Although the difference could be greater or less than 226,000, that figure is established as a minimum for the FS preference immigrant limitation.
Specifically, if such family-related numerically-exempt immigrants and parolees are fewer than 254,000, the family-sponsored preferences will be entitled to more than 226,000 in the following fiscal year. On the other hand, if such family-related numerically-exempt immigrants and parolees exceed 254,000, the FS preferences are still provided at least 226,000 numbers by virtue of the minimum annual limit assured by Sec. 201(c).
So # legal immigrants/year = 480K (FS) + 140K (EB) + 50K (diversity) + Refugee + Asylum + ... = 670K + ... ~= 1M (reported in articles)
(a) FS Preference Limitation:
The overall ceiling for relatives is 480,000, from which the previous year's total of immediate relatives and other family classes which are exempt from the numerical ceiling are deducted to determine the level of family-based preference immigration. Although the difference could be greater or less than 226,000, that figure is established as a minimum for the FS preference immigrant limitation.
Specifically, if such family-related numerically-exempt immigrants and parolees are fewer than 254,000, the family-sponsored preferences will be entitled to more than 226,000 in the following fiscal year. On the other hand, if such family-related numerically-exempt immigrants and parolees exceed 254,000, the FS preferences are still provided at least 226,000 numbers by virtue of the minimum annual limit assured by Sec. 201(c).
So # legal immigrants/year = 480K (FS) + 140K (EB) + 50K (diversity) + Refugee + Asylum + ... = 670K + ... ~= 1M (reported in articles)
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04-26 09:58 AM
You stated dual intent immigrants. In letter and spirit.
That contradicts US Embassy provisions of H1 stamping, when you first go for the visa interview. Doesn't the US Embassy/Consulate state that you should be able to prove your intent NOT to abandon your country of origin, show you family ties, financial connections. Am I right? I can give a ton of links from US Consulate web sites with those exact words.
Now, what you are talking is dual intention: get H1B visa and get on the permanent residence highway, at the earliest opportunity.
It's OK to start with an empty kitty in SS and Medicare account, just when are about to get your Green Card than to walk back to your country losing 10 to 20 grand of your own money after 6 or 7 years. Uncle Sam should not collect SS Tax and Medicare from temporary workers. Period.
Although on first reading I was agreeing with the person who indicated that deducting SS and Medicare from non-immigrants does not make sense, lets look at it from another perspective... most of us would agree that more than 50 to 60% of non-immigrants or dual intent immigrants (read H1 visas for the purpose of this thread) are trying to obtain their permanent residency. Now, if the SS and Medicare are not deducted while you are on a H1B (boy, the employers would love this because as per law they have to match your deduction dollar for dollar) and you get your green card, you would be essentially starting with an empty kitty (i.e. the benefits that you would have accrued over the 9-10 years that it took you to get your GC are zero. Now, whose loss is that? I think, the better alternative would be the proposal by Sen. Kyle/Sen. Cornyn where they advocate that a temporary worker who has to go back will get the money when he leaves. If you don't and get your GC done, then the money goes into the SS/Medicare kitty and that way nobody loses.:)
Khnmbd is correct, if we demand not paying SS and Medicare, we probably stand to alienate ourselves from the mainstream. The very reason we are asked to pay SS/Medicare is because the H1B/L1 visas are considered to be dual-intent visas. That is the reason why students on F1 visa are exempt from paying SS/Medicare. Hope this clarifies a few issues and results in cooling down the temperatures:D
That contradicts US Embassy provisions of H1 stamping, when you first go for the visa interview. Doesn't the US Embassy/Consulate state that you should be able to prove your intent NOT to abandon your country of origin, show you family ties, financial connections. Am I right? I can give a ton of links from US Consulate web sites with those exact words.
Now, what you are talking is dual intention: get H1B visa and get on the permanent residence highway, at the earliest opportunity.
It's OK to start with an empty kitty in SS and Medicare account, just when are about to get your Green Card than to walk back to your country losing 10 to 20 grand of your own money after 6 or 7 years. Uncle Sam should not collect SS Tax and Medicare from temporary workers. Period.
Although on first reading I was agreeing with the person who indicated that deducting SS and Medicare from non-immigrants does not make sense, lets look at it from another perspective... most of us would agree that more than 50 to 60% of non-immigrants or dual intent immigrants (read H1 visas for the purpose of this thread) are trying to obtain their permanent residency. Now, if the SS and Medicare are not deducted while you are on a H1B (boy, the employers would love this because as per law they have to match your deduction dollar for dollar) and you get your green card, you would be essentially starting with an empty kitty (i.e. the benefits that you would have accrued over the 9-10 years that it took you to get your GC are zero. Now, whose loss is that? I think, the better alternative would be the proposal by Sen. Kyle/Sen. Cornyn where they advocate that a temporary worker who has to go back will get the money when he leaves. If you don't and get your GC done, then the money goes into the SS/Medicare kitty and that way nobody loses.:)
Khnmbd is correct, if we demand not paying SS and Medicare, we probably stand to alienate ourselves from the mainstream. The very reason we are asked to pay SS/Medicare is because the H1B/L1 visas are considered to be dual-intent visas. That is the reason why students on F1 visa are exempt from paying SS/Medicare. Hope this clarifies a few issues and results in cooling down the temperatures:D
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08-11 07:30 PM
I am July 2nd filer, Got finger print notice from NSC with notice dated 8/7.
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11-20 09:58 PM
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04-25 02:31 PM
It sure seems that there a lot of frustrated people on a short fuse. Staying focused definitely helps because of both our limited resources and influence. One thing that should be considered though is the greater good. Lot's of things could help an individual's cause. If I had the power to change the law I would start of by issuing green-cards within a month of getting an H1-B. But I don't have the wishing well in my backyard. I wish one of us could locate one and that would be the end of all this confrontation!
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sunny1000
09-30 04:16 PM
USCIS can process recaptured numbers. If 200k numbers are in one year USCIS will plan for 200k numbers in that year.In 2000 they processed more applications after a immigration reform. One way of preventing wastage is plan to process all the applications in 11 months. If any unused numbers can be processed in that one month.
I would like to have whatever you are smoking when you type these things. Seriously man...give us a break, will ya? Is there a point system by which people get GCs if they play the devil's advocate? I would like to sign up for that.
The Ombudsman's report clearly stated how USCIS wasted all these visa #s due to their ineffieciency, very well knowing that these #s cannot be re-used the following year. Why don't you send your below mentioned valuable advice to USCIS and see if you can make them do the right thing instead of "educating" us("One way of preventing wastage is plan to process all the applications in 11 months")
I would like to have whatever you are smoking when you type these things. Seriously man...give us a break, will ya? Is there a point system by which people get GCs if they play the devil's advocate? I would like to sign up for that.
The Ombudsman's report clearly stated how USCIS wasted all these visa #s due to their ineffieciency, very well knowing that these #s cannot be re-used the following year. Why don't you send your below mentioned valuable advice to USCIS and see if you can make them do the right thing instead of "educating" us("One way of preventing wastage is plan to process all the applications in 11 months")
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01-14 12:06 PM
You can check the dates on this link,
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/ptimes.jsp
Hope this helps,
Thanks for the link - the only issue is that the link reflects the processing as of Dec 14, 2007.
Is there a way to check on the dates they are processing at present. Can we call USCIS customer service regarding this information ?
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/ptimes.jsp
Hope this helps,
Thanks for the link - the only issue is that the link reflects the processing as of Dec 14, 2007.
Is there a way to check on the dates they are processing at present. Can we call USCIS customer service regarding this information ?
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ind_game
05-15 09:02 PM
Maybe someone that has had to go through this can respond.
When you are working for a large(r) corporation, where all fees (including EAD/AP) are paid for by the company, who pays for the MTR?
I was under the impression that the employer pays for the filing, attorney, etc. fees, am I wrong?
I changed jobs from a desi company to a large corporation using AC 21.
I had to file two MTRs. I have spent everything from my pocket for the two MTRs.
When you are working for a large(r) corporation, where all fees (including EAD/AP) are paid for by the company, who pays for the MTR?
I was under the impression that the employer pays for the filing, attorney, etc. fees, am I wrong?
I changed jobs from a desi company to a large corporation using AC 21.
I had to file two MTRs. I have spent everything from my pocket for the two MTRs.
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gc_on_demand
03-09 11:32 AM
For Eb2 india and china dates will be like this in April 2009 bulletin.
Eb2 India : Feb 2005
China : Feb 2006
May 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2005
China : May 2006
June 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Sep 2005
China : Sep 2006
July 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Feb 2006
China : Feb 2007
August 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2007
China : May 2008
Eb2 India : Feb 2005
China : Feb 2006
May 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2005
China : May 2006
June 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Sep 2005
China : Sep 2006
July 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Feb 2006
China : Feb 2007
August 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2007
China : May 2008
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12-12 10:55 AM
I got financing using EAD in March 2010, and got refinancing recently still using EAD but not the WFC. There should no criteria or need to have GC only. Talk to agent or other lender and you need one, "DESI company" let me know.
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05-15 07:54 PM
For that only I am telling we need to teach a lesson. Take them once to court, and if we can get the judement once in our favour it will nail the coffin. If we lose, some one else try again in different court.
Trust me. I am ready for Writ of Mandamus. But before filing it, I have to exhaust all the administrative procedures to make the case stronger in front of the Judge.
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Nobody has gone that far.
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I have posted a link on murthy but no responses till now. Not even a single attorney responded.
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02-23 01:55 PM
Processing dates for 485 seems to have greatly improved at NSC. Hopefully now they start issueing based on the priority date.
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ksrk
09-10 05:57 PM
Considering 7% country quota and 26.7% EB2 quota of 140k, we get 2800 visa for EB2 annually. For first month this number comes out to be 234. Considering 1.2 dependents this means 106 families get GC under EB2.
I am sure they have more than 106 cases before the cutoff of 1 April 2003. This may also include people delayed by background checks.
Hi Sachug22,
I think the calculation is made this way...
Total EB2 numbers = 28.6% of total number = 40040 (for all countries)
Available each quarter = 10010
However, per country allocation can't exceed 7% (of total number allowed per quarter, not of the 28.6%) - limits to 2450 <-- each for India and China.
Applying 7% of 28.6% of one quarter of 140000 (as you did) is severely restrictive (not that 2450 is a great number per quarter for the first and second quaters of the fiscal year).
Either way, your point might still hold that there are enough folks waiting (with PD prior to April '03) to account for these in October '08.
[In the hope that some analysis like this might release the pressure set upon by the latest announcement...]
I am sure they have more than 106 cases before the cutoff of 1 April 2003. This may also include people delayed by background checks.
Hi Sachug22,
I think the calculation is made this way...
Total EB2 numbers = 28.6% of total number = 40040 (for all countries)
Available each quarter = 10010
However, per country allocation can't exceed 7% (of total number allowed per quarter, not of the 28.6%) - limits to 2450 <-- each for India and China.
Applying 7% of 28.6% of one quarter of 140000 (as you did) is severely restrictive (not that 2450 is a great number per quarter for the first and second quaters of the fiscal year).
Either way, your point might still hold that there are enough folks waiting (with PD prior to April '03) to account for these in October '08.
[In the hope that some analysis like this might release the pressure set upon by the latest announcement...]
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skakodker
03-01 10:49 AM
[You are relatively at peace because your PD is 2005 and you are in EB2.
Moreover since you are already filed 485 and its more than 6 months you are secure.
For rest the situation is precarious
As it relates to my green card application, my situation is relatively better than some. If you search my previous posts, you will note my similar expression of frustration a few months/years ago. I don't want to go into the details behind how justifiable my frustration felt at the time - those are facts that I can do nothing about.
So I gave up and quickly made plans to return to our homeland. I was lucky to have a moment of clarity about a month before pulling any triggers because shortly thereafter, I read Lance Armstrong's book - "It's Not About the Bike". "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl was another very inspring work for me. I have since read many books on similar subjects - some good and some not so good - but more importantly, I now believe, with all my heart, that how I feel is entirely up to me. Not only is it just up to me, I am 100% accountable for it.
I am not saying you shouldn't express your feelings or seek the comfort of friends when you want to. I am simply offering some details around what works for me and why I am not as frustrated as I once was.
My green card "struggle" - if you can call it that - no longer impedes my ability to enjoy this moment. There are more people-including children-facing far more significant challenges across all walks of life. I accept my green card situation for what it is. I work everyday on what I ought to be doing and strive to leave doubt and worry behind (per Huxley's age old advice). This works for me.
I would love nothing more for it to work for everyone.
Best,
Sunil
Moreover since you are already filed 485 and its more than 6 months you are secure.
For rest the situation is precarious
As it relates to my green card application, my situation is relatively better than some. If you search my previous posts, you will note my similar expression of frustration a few months/years ago. I don't want to go into the details behind how justifiable my frustration felt at the time - those are facts that I can do nothing about.
So I gave up and quickly made plans to return to our homeland. I was lucky to have a moment of clarity about a month before pulling any triggers because shortly thereafter, I read Lance Armstrong's book - "It's Not About the Bike". "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl was another very inspring work for me. I have since read many books on similar subjects - some good and some not so good - but more importantly, I now believe, with all my heart, that how I feel is entirely up to me. Not only is it just up to me, I am 100% accountable for it.
I am not saying you shouldn't express your feelings or seek the comfort of friends when you want to. I am simply offering some details around what works for me and why I am not as frustrated as I once was.
My green card "struggle" - if you can call it that - no longer impedes my ability to enjoy this moment. There are more people-including children-facing far more significant challenges across all walks of life. I accept my green card situation for what it is. I work everyday on what I ought to be doing and strive to leave doubt and worry behind (per Huxley's age old advice). This works for me.
I would love nothing more for it to work for everyone.
Best,
Sunil
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03-08 11:50 PM
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ragz4u
02-05 11:24 AM
Hi All,
I'm new to immigration Voice. I've read abt this in immigration portal and understand that a group of people are leading this. I wish them all the best and i extend my full support. Also i heard that this group is collecting funds. Can someone please point me where would i contribute.
Thanks
RAJ
SWA: Virginia
SWA Receipt Date (Priority Date): October 31,2002
EB2 - RIR
Forwarded to Philadelphia Regional DOL on June 22, 2004
BEC Case Number: P-04282-*****
45 Day Letter Received and Replied : Feb 2005
You can contribute by check/paypal/credit card
I'm new to immigration Voice. I've read abt this in immigration portal and understand that a group of people are leading this. I wish them all the best and i extend my full support. Also i heard that this group is collecting funds. Can someone please point me where would i contribute.
Thanks
RAJ
SWA: Virginia
SWA Receipt Date (Priority Date): October 31,2002
EB2 - RIR
Forwarded to Philadelphia Regional DOL on June 22, 2004
BEC Case Number: P-04282-*****
45 Day Letter Received and Replied : Feb 2005
You can contribute by check/paypal/credit card
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